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Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by johnw47: 11:27pm On May 02
MaxInDHouse:

But when you're aggressively demanding that someone should yield to your opinion smiley


lost false jw mad max

post just one quote where i aggressively demand that someone should yield to my opinion,
of course you will run away again on that, won't you oh fearful false jw:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by johnw47: 2:19am On May 04
Mat 5:5  Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. 

Psa_147:6  The LORD lifteth up the meek: he casteth the wicked down to the ground.

the LORD lifts up the meek/the gentle, and casts down the wicked/the morally wrong


below is a little of the meekness of lost false jw mad max, it's actually the weakness of lost false jw mad max:

MaxInDHouse: he's an Antichrist for blasphemy cheesy

MaxInDHouse: don't be an idiot
he's also an Antichrist cheesy

MaxInDHouse: your disturbed brain
he is an Antichrist and a blasphemer cheesy

MaxInDHouse: LIAR!
cheesy

MaxInDHouse: you've been the idiot smiley

MaxInDHouse: the other guy is a blasphemer cheesy


MaxInDHouse: someone like you is a confirmed idiot.
your stupidity smiley

MaxInDHouse: Ọmọ she's still playing with it till now so what can you do about that? cheesy

the it is mad max's penis

^^ mad max's meekness weakness and lies, from just one page
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by johnw47: 4:17am On May 04
Janosky:
SHAMELESS LIAR .
grin

lost fraud jw janonsense

quote the shameless lie won't you, or run away again like you fearful false jw's always do:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by johnw47: 2:56am On May 06
Steep:
The Word of God is not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Ghost is a separate person from the Father and Son.
in the beginning there was two, God and the Word, john 1:1
in the beginning there was two, God and the Holy Spirit of God, gen 1:1&2

show where in the beginning there was three

Steep: He is the power of God in creation,

the Word of God is the power of God in creation, God created everything that is created through the Word, john 1:3
ie. the Word of God is the Holy Spirit of God

Steep: he guides, empowers and teach the believers as well as lives in them permanently.

how does that show the Holy Spirit is not the Word of God?
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by johnw47: 11:40pm On May 06
Steep:
No he did say christ is the Holy Spirit, rather
It is good to read according to context else one errs.
1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

verse 18 is about the crucifiction unto the saved being the power of God

verse 24 which i quoted shows Christ/the Word Himself being the power of God/the Holy Spirit of God,
and the wisdom of God/the Word of God
wisdom sometimes refers to the Word, wisdom is personified as the Word in proverbs 8:22-30

1Co_1:24  but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
^^ Christ the power/the Holy Spirit of God, is not referring to Jesus the man/flesh, but to His Holy Spirit/the Word of God

2Co_12:9  And He has said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness." Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me.

Steep: 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

Paul was talking of the preaching of the sacrifice of Jesus as the atonement for sin.

and what has that to do with "the power of God" being "the Holy Spirit of God", verse 24 and other

Steep: When Paul said christ is the power of God he meant christ is the means through which God saves people.

it is well known that Christ is the means through which God saves people

but nothing to do with the power of God being the Holy Spirit

your context doesn't relate to the things i said, you err



Rom_8:11  But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

the Holy Spirit that raised Jesus, above verse, is the Word of God, verse below:

Joh 2:19  Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." 
Joh 2:20  The Jews then said, "It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?" 
Joh 2:21  But He was speaking of the temple of His body.

^^ the Holy Spirit of God/the Word of God, raised the body of Jesus, just like Jesus said: "I will raise it up"



1Jn_5:6  This is the One who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only, but with the water and with the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.

the Holy Spirit is the truth, above verse, Jesus/the Word of God is the truth, verse below:

Joh_14:6  Jesus *said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by SIRTee15: 2:21am On May 07
Ohyoudidnt:


No I don't believe that Jesus preferably Yeshua or Isa a.s is divine.

He however has a special position amongst mankind and with God
So are U saying U believe Thomas knew Jesus was divine i.e has a divine nature?
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by Ohyoudidnt: 1:50pm On May 07
SIRTee15:

So are U saying U believe Thomas knew Jesus was divine i.e has a divine nature?

Let's look at your scripture closely. What did Jesus say to Thomas?

John 24:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

What is Jesus saying Thomas believes in?

The existence of a God called Father in their Israelite tradition that sent him?
Re: Thomas Called Jesus, My Lord And My God. Jesus Didn't Say, I Am Not God. by johnw47: 2:30am On May 18
Jesus name in hebrew is; Yeshua.
pronounced It sounds like; "yes you are", and means: to save, Saviour

and coincidentally to what his name sounds like, "yes He is":
Joh 14:6  Jesus said to him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

Jesus is the way for Christians, not a denomination or organisation
or fellow group members, but Jesus alone

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