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Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by Testiebobo(m): 9:10am On May 23
Is sex before marriage a sin?
Because Adam and Eve didnt marry and they had sexual intercourse with each other. And God didnt forsake them because of that. So what is really the superstitic idealogy of sex before marriage as a sin? Do you think it is actually a sin?
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Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by immortalcrown(m): 9:11am On May 23
Testiebobo:
Is sex before marriage a sin?
Because Adam and Eve didnt marry and they had sexual intercourse with each other. And God didnt forsake them because of that. So what is really the superstitic idealogy of sex before marriage as a sin? Do you think it is actually a sin?
Marriage experts and geniuses
Adam and Eve didn't marry?

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Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by StillDtruth: 1:05pm On May 23
immortalcrown:
Adam and Eve didn't marry?

Yes! They were not married.

They were still at the dating stage when satan got them to fall.

Yes! They were not married.

They were still at the dating stage when satan got them to fall.

And as you see, you do not see any place where God declared them husband and wife nor do you see any marriage ceremony and celebration take place.

Which is why even male Adam said "it is the woman you gave me" and not it is the wife you gave me or it is my wife whom you gave me.

Parental consent is a very important ingredient of having a valid marriage and a public show by the parents is also integral to it. That is why all over the world traditional amd customary marriages are valid.
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by StillDtruth: 1:31pm On May 23
Testiebobo:
Is sex before marriage a sin?
Because Adam and Eve didnt marry and they had sexual intercourse with each other. And God didnt forsake them because of that. So what is really the superstitic idealogy of sex before marriage as a sin? Do you think it is actually a sin?
Marriage experts and geniuses

He did! Did you not see He banished them and cursed them like our parents wiill do in the days of old when they find that we had breached their trust and had had sex with each other?
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by immortalcrown(m): 1:39pm On May 23
StillDtruth:
Yes! They were not married.

They were still at the dating stage when satan got them to fall.

Yes! They were not married.

They were still at the dating stage when satan got them to fall.

And as you see, you do not see any place where God declared them husband and wife nor do you see any marriage ceremony and celebration take place.

Which is why even male Adam said "it is the woman you gave me" and not it is the wife you gave me or it is my wife whom you gave me.

Parental consent is a very important ingredient of having a valid marriage and a public show by the parents is also integral to it. That is why all over the world traditional amd customary marriages are valid.
Any proof to back up your claim?
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by StillDtruth: 1:47pm On May 23
immortalcrown:
Any proof to back up your claim?

I have given them to you already.

I told you even male Adam said "it is the woman you gave me" and not it is the wife you gave me or it is my wife whom you gave me.

And no where did you not see where God declared them husband and wife a nor did a marriage ceremony and celebration take place as we have seen parents do before and during their children's marriage
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by immortalcrown(m): 1:51pm On May 23
StillDtruth:
I have given them to you already.

I told you even male Adam said "it is the woman you gave me" and not it is the wife you gave me or it is my wife whom you gave me.

And no where did you not see where God declared them husband and wife a nor did a marriage ceremony and celebration take place as we have seen parents do before and during their children's marriage
Nothing you wrote here means dating in any language or culture. I ask again, any proof to show that Adam and Eve were not husband and wife but were dating?

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Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by StillDtruth: 2:37pm On May 23
World over, Is dating not when a boy and giirl are dedicated anf committed to each other with an aim of being seen and taken as husband and wife?

All over the world, are the parents not already aware that their children have connected to each other and are in that period of time which comes before marriage which we now call "dating"?

You have seen all of these things and no where do you see in the bible where you see God had a party or something celebrating their union declaring them husband and wife.

And even male Adam shows that fact which is why he said "it is the woman you gave me" and not it is the wife you gave me or it is my wife whom you gave me as duly and validly married people will say.
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by MythAngel: 4:08pm On May 23
Testiebobo:
Is sex before marriage a sin?
Because Adam and Eve didnt marry and they had sexual intercourse with each other. And God didnt forsake them because of that. So what is really the superstitic idealogy of sex before marriage as a sin? Do you think it is actually a sin?
Marriage experts and geniuses

Your Answer:
Genesis 2: 22-24.
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his Wife: and they shall be one flesh.

I am sure sir. That this answered your question.
Adam and Even became married from the moment God brought the woman to meet the man.

Thank you.

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Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by Immortalzbon(m): 4:28pm On May 23
Testiebobo:
Is sex before marriage a sin?
Because Adam and Eve didnt marry and they had sexual intercourse with each other. And God didnt forsake them because of that. So what is really the superstitic idealogy of sex before marriage as a sin? Do you think it is actually a sin?
Marriage experts and geniuses

Genesis 4:1; and Adam knew his WIFE eve.....your error is in thinking that its the ceremony that validates a marriage...those are just the extras that society added to celebrate the union.
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by Goodlyhrt(m): 7:46pm On May 23
Fornication is not a sin of course but breaking a vow 'see adultery' is sin..

God is not interested in your sins anyway not like it will stop him from being God, no! But he listens to the cry of the downtrodden and visits parents sin even unto the 10th generation.

Summary is to not break any vow to him or to any human. That is the only sin.

Sin include:
*Not acknowledge God
*Idolatry
*Disobedience to God's command or parent's wise counsel
*Adultery
*Lieing/false witness
*Stealing
*Murder
*Pride
*Greediness/covetousness
*Glutton
*Drunkenness/abuse of everything
*Not keeping to convenant/cheating
*Dehumanizing your fellow man; because that man will cry unto God and his wrath will fall upon you

Not a sin but erroneously perceived:
*Fornication
*Gambling/lot
*Masturbation
*Laziness
*False pretence for a good course 'see story of Abraham and king Abimelech over Sarah Abraham's wife'
*Drinking alcohol
*Eating all types of animals/food

The sins I mentioned will make you a direct enemy of God.

While the other, though not much offence to God but might be an offence onto YOURSELF so you better be careful and understand that moderation is key in life.

I rise!

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Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by okoroemeka(m): 3:27am On May 24
MythAngel:


Your Answer:
Genesis 2: 22-24.
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his Wife: and they shall be one flesh.

I am sure sir. That this answered your question.
Adam and Even became married from the moment God brought the woman to meet the man.

Thank you.
correct me if I am wrong,when the offsprings of Adam and eve we know as Cain and Abel,Cain went off to another land and took a wife,who created those people?who are Cain's inlaws? Can they be black men created by a black God?
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by StillDtruth: 5:26am On May 24
MythAngel:


Your Answer:
Genesis 2: 22-24.
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his Wife: and they shall be one flesh.

I am sure sir. That this answered your question.
Adam and Even became married from the moment God brought the woman to meet the man.

Thank you.

You must first meet your partner to be husband and wife and that is the period we call boyfriend/girlfriend aka dating stage.

And when the couple are dating, they do not have the right to.have sex or to partake in their partner's family functions etc.
It is after their Union is celebrated by their parents that they then have that right to have sex including all the other rights they previously did not have.

So, technically, marriage starts from "brought" together, but sex and other rights of marriage are only activated after the families have celebrated the couples joining and brought.togetherness.

Which is why another element of a valid marriage in Law is "[b]lex celebrationis"

And no lex celebrationis occurred between male and female Adam.
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by StillDtruth: 5:47am On May 24
Goodlyhrt:
Fornication is not a sin of course but breaking a vow 'see adultery' is sin..

God is not interested in your sins anyway not like it will stop him from being God, no! But he listens to the cry of the downtrodden and visits parents sin even unto the 10th generation.

Summary is to not break any vow to him or to any human. That is the only sin.

Sin include:
*Not acknowledge God
*Idolatry
*Disobedience to God's command or parent's wise counsel
*Adultery
*Lieing/false witness
*Stealing
*Murder
*Pride
*Greediness/covetousness
*Glutton
*Drunkenness/abuse of everything
*Not keeping to convenant/cheating
*Dehumanizing your fellow man; because that man will cry unto God and his wrath will fall upon you

Not a sin but erroneously perceived:
*Fornication
*Gambling/lot
*Masturbation
*Laziness
*False pretence for a good course 'see story of Abraham and king Abimelech over Sarah Abraham's wife'
*Drinking alcohol
*Eating all types of animals/food

The sins I mentioned will make you a direct enemy of God.

While the other, though not much offence to God but might be an offence onto YOURSELF so you better be careful and understand that moderation is key in life.

I rise!


Rubbish!

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 shows that it is a sin for when a couple fornicated they must marry themselves else they be killed or turn vagabonds/fugitives by running away.;history of eloping and prostitution and new towns and communities

And this is the beginning and history of bad marriage for God punishes them by making their marrage very painfull and bitter as we all see people have today since most like you fornicated even thouaands of times before they married.
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by StillDtruth: 5:56am On May 24
okoroemeka:
correct me if I am wrong,when the offsprings of Adam and eve we know as Cain and Abel,Cain went off to another land and took a wife,who created those people?who are Cain's inlaws? Can they be black men created by a black God?

Off point!

Plus, Adam and Eve had both boys and girls.
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by helinues: 6:39am On May 24
So you have been working for years, saving for years and decided to buy a brand new Ferrari, are you not going to test drive it before paying?
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by Nicepoker(m): 7:12am On May 24
A woman is like a car. You need a license to drive them. grin

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Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by DkJay: 7:20am On May 24
Lol. These ones are lost. Fornication is not a sin? Bible said a man will leave his parents and be joined to his wife. And they twain shall become one flesh.

What other joining is more obvious when something came out of you was used to create your partner, whom God himself approved of and brought to you?

That's the highest form of commitment and it's a covenant (as all marriages are covenants) that God himself put his stamp on.

This man is saying they were "dating". People just choose to quote the Bible out of context.

So because Adam said "woman", it means she was not his wife? So as a married man, if you go out and someone asks you, "where's your woman?" that would be politically wrong, or would you assume he was referring to your girlfriend and not your wife?

Omo. People are completely lost.

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Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by DkJay: 7:29am On May 24
helinues:
So you have been working for years, saving for years and decided to buy a brand new Ferrari, are you not going to test drive it before paying?

You can justify having an unnecessarily large sexual appetite all you want.

Lol. But what goes around comes around. And stays around. As you're "test driving" other people's daughters, it's the same way your daughters, nieces, and grand kids would be test driven by other randy men too.

And let me also inform you, 90% of them would end up not buying the damned car. Just like you didn't "buy" or marry all the girls you test-drove.

As a man, if someone keeps sleeping with your daughter without marrying her, would you like it? It's like having a car dealership. And this young man picks out one of your most expensive rides and starts driving it, says he wants to test it. Does this for three hours, comes and parks it and says he's not buying yet. And he comes in every week, putting milage on the thing, yet not buying.

Won't you get out a shotgun and blast his head off for driving down the value of your car, next time you see him in your shop?

Have a conscience, young man.

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Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by lululovesblue(f): 7:47am On May 24
I won't lie, it seems to me like this is a strawman argument. As in, you're grasping at straws. They were still at the dating stage? So did they do white wedding at any point in their lives before death? God himself had recognized their union, giving Eve to Adam as a companion. So they were still dating?

You said they were in the dating stage when Satan got them to fall. But in Genesis 3:6 it says "And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat"

Adam is referred to as her husband in this verse by most versions of the Bible. So what exactly are you talking about?

Oga, if you want to sleep around before marriage, do so. It's your body after all. But don't use the Bible as justification.
StillDtruth:


Yes! They were not married.

They were still at the dating stage when satan got them to fall.

Yes! They were not married.

They were still at the dating stage when satan got them to fall.

And as you see, you do not see any place where God declared them husband and wife nor do you see any marriage ceremony and celebration take place.

Which is why even male Adam said "it is the woman you gave me" and not it is the wife you gave me or it is my wife whom you gave me.

Parental consent is a very important ingredient of having a valid marriage and a public show by the parents is also integral to it. That is why all over the world traditional amd customary marriages are valid.



Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by lululovesblue(f): 7:49am On May 24
lululovesblue:
I won't lie, it seems to me like this is a strawman argument. As in, you're grasping at straws. They were still at the dating stage? So did they do white wedding at any point in their lives before death? God himself had recognized their union, giving Eve to Adam as a companion. So they were still dating?

You said they were in the dating stage when Satan got them to fall. But in Genesis 3:6 it says "And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat". I haven't read the Bible since secondary school and even I remember that.

Adam is referred to as her husband in this verse by most versions of the Bible. So what exactly are you talking about?

Oga, if you want to sleep around before marriage, do so. It's your body after all. But don't use the Bible as justification.
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by Tallesty1(m): 8:03am On May 24
StillDtruth:


Yes! They were not married.

They were still at the dating stage when satan got them to fall.

Yes! They were not married.

They were still at the dating stage when satan got them to fall.

And as you see, you do not see any place where God declared them husband and wife nor do you see any marriage ceremony and celebration take place.

Which is why even male Adam said "it is the woman you gave me" and not it is the wife you gave me or it is my wife whom you gave me.

Parental consent is a very important ingredient of having a valid marriage and a public show by the parents is also integral to it. That is why all over the world traditional amd customary marriages are valid.



What actually marries a man to a woman is their vows, not just parental consent. The moment a man asks a woman to marry him in good faith and she agrees in good faith, they are as good as married, but I think that is beyond the scope of your question.

Since you talked about consent, let me ask you: which consent is better than God's consent? Adam and Eve didn't have parents. God saw what Adam needed and gave him one, so what else do you want? A wedding with God as the officiating priest and animals as guests?

Also, things change. There was just one law in the garden and there is no sin without law. You do know that marrying one's sibling was okay and legal until the law against it came much later? Adam's children married each other, etc.
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by Goodlyhrt(m): 8:19am On May 24
StillDtruth:


Rubbish!

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 shows that it is a sin for when a couple fornicated they must marry themselves else they be killed or turn vagabonds/fugitives by running away.;history of eloping and prostitution and new towns and communities

And this is the beginning and history of bad marriage for God punishes them by making their marrage very painfull and bitter as we all see people have today since most like you fornicated even thouaands of times before you married.


Then you have confirmed it that not being a sin till when they don't marry. Or caught.

Not a sin against God but to humans, to be punished by selfsame humans not God.

Was fornication expressly written in the tablets as a sin?
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by Puss360(f): 8:35am On May 24
Ooh wrong thread.... This thread isn't for me grin grin..
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by MrCork: 9:02am On May 24
Testiebobo:
Is sex before marriage a sin?
Because Adam and Eve didnt marry and they had sexual intercourse with each other. And God didnt forsake them because of that. So what is really the superstitic idealogy of sex before marriage as a sin? Do you think it is actually a sin?
Marriage experts and geniuses


angry
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by MrCork: 9:04am On May 24
Testiebobo:
Is sex before marriage a sin?
Because Adam and Eve didnt marry and they had sexual intercourse with each other. And God didnt forsake them because of that. So what is really the superstitic idealogy of sex before marriage as a sin? Do you think it is actually a sin?
Marriage experts and geniuses


So we shuld juss stand there like electric pole... & be loookinat Pucccccccccccccccci......corrrrrect?...realllllly?? angry
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by MythAngel: 11:25am On May 24
okoroemeka:
correct me if I am wrong,when the offsprings of Adam and eve we know as Cain and Abel,Cain went off to another land and took a wife,who created those people?who are Cain's inlaws? Can they be black men created by a black God?

If you want answer to this question ... you need open another tread ... this is an off branch that would derail the train of though you earlier invoked...

First acknowledge that Adam and Eve were married and that the creator himself instituted it.

Thank you
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by ibkonekt(m): 11:41am On May 24
Testiebobo:
Is sex before marriage a sin?
Because Adam and Eve didnt marry and they had sexual intercourse with each other. And God didnt forsake them because of that. So what is really the superstitic idealogy of sex before marriage as a sin? Do you think it is actually a sin?
Marriage experts and geniuses
Sex IS marriage..
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by StillDtruth: 12:31am On May 25
Goodlyhrt:
Then you have confirmed it that not being a sin till when they don't marry. Or caught.

Not a sin against God but to humans, to be punished by selfsame humans not God.

Was fornication expressly written in the tablets as a sin?

What mad twisting is this when i clearly showed that God punished them by making them marry so that they suffer a second time by having a bad marriage?
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by StillDtruth: 12:50am On May 25
Tallesty1:
What actually marries a man to a woman is their vows, not just parental consent. The moment a man asks a woman to marry him in good faith and she agrees in good faith, they are as good as married, but I think that is beyond the scope of your question.

Since you talked about consent, let me ask you: which consent is better than God's consent? Adam and Eve didn't have parents. God saw what Adam needed and gave him one, so what else do you want? A wedding with God as the officiating priest and animals as guests?

Also, things change. There was just one law in the garden and there is no sin without law. You do know that marrying one's sibling was okay and legal until the law against it came much later? Adam's children married each other, etc.

Wrong!

What marries man to a woman is Authourity and Law.

If God, our Authority had prohibited marriages, then marriages would be a sin.

But because God permitted it, He also set down the steps which.a couple must comply with to have a valid marriage as shown by Nature.

Which we know starts with Young adult male and female meet, and court each other privately, then publicly, then they report themselves and their relationship.to their respective families (consent of their Authorities) who after due and proper scrutiny, give their consent to the couple and then thereafter publiclly show to the whole world that they approve the Union (marriage) of their children formerly under their care by publicly celebrating the marriage. Hence the history of traditional and customary marriages.

And all over the workd, its the same procedure.

As you see in the new world to come, marriages are prohibited/deactivated by The Authority, God!
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by StillDtruth: 1:00am On May 25
lululovesblue:
I won't lie, it seems to me like this is a strawman argument. As in, you're grasping at straws. They were still at the dating stage? So did they do white wedding at any point in their lives before death? God himself had recognized their union, giving Eve to Adam as a companion. So they were still dating?

You said they were in the dating stage when Satan got them to fall. But in Genesis 3:6 it says "And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat"

Adam is referred to as her husband in this verse by most versions of the Bible. So what exactly are you talking about?

Oga, if you want to sleep around before marriage, do so. It's your body after all. But don't use the Bible as justification.

You are the one committing the fallacy of reversing the burden of proof.

The bible shows they were put together like boyfriend/gitlfriend are first put together.

But every boyfriend and girlfriend still need to go through the process of marriage, which nature has shown us that the coming together.of the boyfriend and girlfriend must be publicly celebrated by the families of the couple for it to be valid (lex celebrationis) just like Wofai fadas's marriage issue https://www.nairaland.com/8082484/wofai-fadas-in-laws-reject-marriage#129791915

And we can all see the bible shows that Adam's union was not celebrated, which you see male Adam said "it is the woman you gave me" and not it is the wife you gave me or it is my wife whom you gave me.

So you people already fornicate before marriage, so just know that you are guilty of it already like Adam.
Re: Why Is Sex Before Marriage A Sin? by StillDtruth: 1:18am On May 25
ibkonekt:

Sex IS marriage..

True! But not all marriages are lawful.

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