AbuTwins:
That's your own theory as an ignorant Christian! Allah mentions Abraham, Moses, the disciples of Jesus, Solomon, David, etc as Muslims in the Qur'an!

In fact, all Prophets from Adam, Noah, Jacob, Jonah,......, Elijah, Elisha, Joseph, Zechariah, John the baptist, etc are Muslims!

That was the pre-islamic Arabia. They did believe in the supreme diety and creator but associate idols in worship with Him.

What gibberish.

These are Jewish history, especially from Jacob who was also known as Israel and that was where the Isrealites/Jewish history started. None of them prayed to the allah stone nor mentioned any nonsensical shahadah nor resided in Saudi. The places they stayed were Egypt and Judea before they were dispersed into Europe.

Mohammad should have simply focused on his Arab history if he's got one to begin with, instead of his unintelligent rabbling over what's not his business. Meanwhile, it's still the Bible which reveal the sequence of the Jewish history, not the rambling of the camel urine drinking lunatic. The criminal pedophile.

Dsimmer:
If not for the Bible, the Arabs wouldn't even know who comes first between Joseph, Moses and Jacob or the sequence of things, after the unintelligent pedophile Mohammad copied the Jewish history Unintelligibly from the bible, especially after his brother in-law preached the scripture to him.

So "the Bible" exists in Arabia back then? Can we have your proof? And of what use is the sequence you talked about? Moses, Joseph and Jacob were not particularly sent to us so why do we need to copy anything from them?

You just cook up some uncouth abuse and mix it with falsehood to sound as foolish as possible! No wonder there's foolish Galatians in the Bible!

I don't even care for the unintelligent camel urine drinking Mohammad in anyway, since I'm no Arab to begin with. Tbh, I haven't seen what Arab have done for Africa except trying to destroy Africa like they destroyed the old black Egypt. They should prove me wrong. Heck Mohammad said that the devil is a black man who should be enslaved. Only if the fool realized that Jesus was a black man with woolen hair.

This is foolishness continua! Muhammad said there's no preference for an Arab over a non-Arab except in piety!

You will never be able to quote anything except to spread lies without understanding and devoid of wisdom!

Bilaal is a black man and was one of the foremost companions of Muhammad.

So continue your lies. I no dey reply you again as I don't want to be like you!

Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be like him. Proverbs 26:4

Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he become wise in his own eyes. Proverbs 26:5

MaxInDHouse:


The point is they called it "God's word" the title GOD connotes SUPREME BEING which mean the adherents should be united under their supreme ruler but the reverse is the case with their Allah the only thing that unites them is the black stone in Mecca that they always bow to apart from the black stone Muslims often kill Muslims at will and the worst part is they do pray to the same Allah for victory when going to kill their fellow worshipers due to politics and racism!

Even the handpicked appointed disciples of Jesus were not united according to your Bible!

Stop the lies!

AbuTwins:

So "the Bible" exists in Arabia back then? Can we have your proof? And of what use is the sequence you talked about? Moses, Joseph and Jacob were not particularly sent to us so why do we need to copy anything from them?

You just cook up some uncouth abuse and mix it with falsehood to sound as foolish as possible! No wonder there's foolish Galatians in the Bible!



This is foolishness continua! Muhammad said there's no preference for an Arab over a non-Arab except in piety!

You will never be able to quote anything except to spread lies without understanding and devoid of wisdom!

Bilaal is a black man and was one of the foremost companions of Muhammad.

So continue your lies. I no dey reply you again as I don't want to be like you!

Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be like him. Proverbs 26:4

Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he become wise in his own eyes. Proverbs 26:5

Mumu, Mohammad's brother in-law, waraqah was always preaching the scripture/gospel to Mohammad, the pedophile criminal who refused to change his criminal acts. The criminal idiot could only copy the Jewish history Unintelligibly from the scripture but still ended up writing gibberish without sequence 😂

And what are you munching about? Who takes the word of the useless camel urine drinking criminal lunatic who was always writing unintelligible trash? 😂 The idiot who owned black slaves while saying the devil was a black man? Only if the fool knew Jesus was a black man with woolen hair. Heck, what the Arab did to the old black Egyptian country is still annoying till now.

AbuTwins:


Demons that are sons of Elohim!

With insatiable sexual passion!

Typical of sons of Jehovah!

The Koran makes mention of demons too
How did they become demons
Were they made that way
Hot Muhammedan

MaxInDHouse:


This is exactly what the priests of all religions be it Buddhists, Hindus and Traditionalists will say:

"All past virtuous people (no matter their nationality) were worshipers of our God"

The Qur'an actually mentions the names unlike the books of those you claim above! And their books didn't make your claim! You lied!

So when someone tells you that then know it's deception because there are virtuous people everywhere but it doesn't mean they worship the same God.

For instance there were virtuous legends among Yorùbá people in ancient times were they also Muslims?

Virtuousness is different from being Muslim!

Of course you will object because their names aren't written in the Bible so for those Arabs to pick up names of virtuous Israelites claiming they were Muslims is not something new!

False premises!
Woeful conclusion!

MaxInDHouse:


What you need to learn is the fact that anyone who lift up weapon against his fellowman for any reason whatsoever is not a follower of Christ {Matthew 26:52} so those you're referring to aren't Christians going by what the founder himself said.
Love your neighbour! Mark 12:31
Love your enemies! Luke 6:27-28
Love your fellow believers! John 13:34-35
Where is the room for wars against another person?

When Jehovah was ordering wars He forgot all these verses?

Who was a Christian in the Bible? Show me who Jesus ever call Christian?

Now you're talking!
I know politics is the reason why people lift up weapons against themselves not religion but the truth is that true worshipers of God will never fight for political reasons because our kingdom is no part of this world! John 18:36

So if your Allah allows it's worshipers to fight for political reasons then who is their supreme ruler? Allah or humans?

It's deceitful when you know their fight is politically motivated and you portray it as being religious!

Jehovah sent Moses, Joshua, Saul, Samson, etc to fight his enemies!

Who is the supreme ruler in the old testament too?

Akell:


It is evident you didn't know the history of the Crusaders. Crusades were purely reactionary.

How many died?

Aemmyjah:


If you remove the New Testament, it still has more volumes than the Koran as a whole
Who can memorize it if it has the same volume as the entire Bible?
See what you're comparing

So memorisation depends only on volume?

Which translation will you memorise first?
Can you even read Greek or Hebrew?

And how about the preservation? You intentionally skipped that!

AbuTwins:


How many died?

The Europeans simply destroyed the criminal fools wanting to kill them in their land. After the Arab destroyed the old black Egypt, the Arab wanted to do same to the Europeans who dealt with the criminal Arabs. That was what the crusade was about.

Dsimmer:


The Europeans simply destroyed the criminal fools wanting to kill them in their land. After the Arab destroyed the old black Egypt, the Arab wanted to do same to the Europeans who dealt with the criminal Arabs. That was what the crusade was about.

How many died?

AbuTwins:


How many died?

Who cares? Useless Terrorists were simply dealt with. How dare some criminal fools wanting to venture into someone else's territory in a bid to destroy them? Is it a mental disorder? Na craze? It was even the Europeans who stopped the Arabs from destroying Africans after the Arabs destroyed Egypt.

Aemmyjah:


The Koran makes mention of demons too
How did they become demons
Were they made that way
Hot Muhammedan

Where did Qur'an mention demon?

Cold Jehovah witness that worships their governing body by following them sheepishly!

Aemmyjah:


The Koran makes mention of demons too
How did they become demons
Were they made that way
Hot Muhammedan

Where did Allah mentions demon in the Qur'an?

Cold Jehovah witness that worships their governing body by following them sheepishly!

Dsimmer:


Who cares? Useless Terrorists were simply dealt with. How dare some criminal fools wanting to venture into someone else's territory in a bid to destroy them? Is it a mental disorder? Na craze? It was even the Europeans who stopped the Arabs from destroying Africans after the Arabs destroyed Egypt.

What about the protestant reformation?
Who were the useless terrorists among them?
How many died?

Who were the ones exhibiting mental disorder and craze?

Akell

AbuTwins:


What about the protestant reformation?
Who were the useless terrorists among them?
How many died?

Who were the ones exhibiting mental disorder and craze?

Akell

As I said, who cares about useless terrorist? The moment anyone want to venture into someone else's territory in a bid to destroy the territory shows how useless the person is. A useless criminal who should be destroyed. That was what the european did.

If not for the European sef, your African self slaving over unintelligible things which isn't your business would have been wiped out by the criminal Arab 🙄

Dsimmer:


As I said, who cares about useless terrorist? The moment anyone want to venture into someone else's territory in a bid to destroy the territory shows how useless the person is. A useless criminal who should be destroyed. That was what the european did.

If not for the European sef, your African self would have been wiped out by the criminal Arab 🙄

Protestant reformation headed by Martin Luther?

Akell see your brother!

AbuTwins:


Protestant reformation headed by Martin Luther?

Akell see your brother!

Yes. Useless terrorists were simply destroyed in Europe. That's what should be done everywhere. No room for terrorist.

As I said, If not for the European sef, your African self slaving over unintelligible things which isn't your business to begin with 🙄 would have been wiped out by those criminal Arab back then 🤓

Dsimmer:


Yes. Useless terrorist were simply destroyed in Europe. That's what should be done everywhere. No room for terrorist.

As I said, If not for the European sef, your African self slaving over unintelligible things which isn't your business🙄 would have been wiped out by the criminal Arab 🤓

Who were the terrorists in the Protestant reformation?

AbuTwins:


Who were the terrorists in the Protestant reformation?

Ask the camel urine drinking unintelligent criminal terrorist Mohammad

AbuTwins:


Where did Allah mentions demon in the Qur'an?

Cold Jehovah witness that worships their governing body by following them sheepishly!

لِّلشَّيَـٰطِينِ ۖ وَأَعْتَدْنَا لَهُمْ عَذَابَ ٱلسَّعِيرِ ٥

And certainly, We have beautified the lowest heaven with bright lights[i.e. stars] and We have made them RUJOOMAN for the devils and We have prepared for them a punishment of blazing heat.


When you ask a Muslim why Muhammad married a 6 year old guy, they say there's no such evidence
When you ask them why he asked people to drink camel urine, they say it never happened
When you ask them why he stole his father's son, they said it's a lie

You claim to memorize but you don't know anything

You won't eat dog or pig cos it's unclean, but you can smoke anything
You say it's only Allah that you must worship but I know many especially the clerics that use juju

All these Al-Qaeda, Al shabab, Hamas, Boko Haram, ISIL, Hezbollah, Taliban, ISIS, ISWAP... Over 90% of terrorists groups are islamists. Why?

AbuTwins:
When Jehovah was ordering wars He forgot all these verses? Who was a Christian in the Bible? Show me who Jesus ever call Christian?

When Jehovah declared war it was against the enemies of pure worship not the enemies of humans so if you're an enemy to your neighbor but you have no problem with pure worship God will not order you to be killed until you kill someone that's why the order is always against those who aren't worshiping the true God not against worshipers of the same God.
The name Christians mean followers or those adhering to the teachings of Christ so Jesus can't call anyone by that group name since he left the earth before the group was established at Pentecost.

It's like asking if Yorùbá legends are Nigerians since the name Nigeria has not been established in their time.

AbuTwins:

It's deceitful when you know their fight is politically motivated and you portray it as being religious!

Jehovah sent Moses, Joshua, Saul, Samson, etc to fight his enemies!

Who is the supreme ruler in the old testament too?

David was supposed to become King against Saul (political) but do you notice that instead of fighting against Saul to kill him David was fighting against the enemies of pure worship?
That's to show you that worshipers of our God knows that politics supposed not to cause a war between them!

AbuTwins:


How is abrogation the problem of any Christian?

Don't you have old covenant and New covenant in your Bible?

Some people no Sabi think o!

Wow! Just Wow!!

Did you listen to yourself at all?
Your line of reasoning doesn't align. In the Bible, there were old and new covenants. And these two were well documented. None was removed, nothing covered. However, in the parchment you carry, there were verses that were no longer recited because Allah was alleg d to have given Mohammed new covenants. So, they stop reciting the old ones. And these old ones are not in the Quran when it was finally written.

Maybe you do not even know what abrogation meant in the first place.
Are you even a true Muslim? When last did you drink Camel's urine? 😂
Remind me, Who are the daughters of the Moon god, Allah? Anyway, that's just ona lighter note.

Guy, let's meet on Twitter space naw. Let me tutor you.

AbuTwins:
That's your own theory as an ignorant Christian! Allah mentions Abraham, Moses, the disciples of Jesus, Solomon, David, etc as Muslims in the Qur'an!

I won't argue this much cus it is believed the Quran was not divinely inspired. Do you know that Mohammed himself opened that Satan wrote some verses of the Quran?

AbuTwins:

In fact, all Prophets from Adam, Noah, Jacob, Jonah,......, Elijah, Elisha, Joseph, Zechariah, John the baptist, etc are Muslims!

How can a book that's written years after these events happened document them? It's only copy and paste from the Bible. And that's why there is no one single complete story in the Quran except for the story of Joseph. Ok wait! Who's a Muslim? Answer this fess.

AbuTwins:

That was the pre-islamic Arabia. They did believe in the supreme diety and creator but associate idols in worship with Him.

And this supreme deity is Allah?

Akell:

I won't argue this much cus it is believed the Quran was not divinely inspired. Do you know that Mohammed himself opened that Satan wrote some verses of the Quran?

This has been debunked. Don't embarrass yourself any longer!

How can a book that's written years after these events happened document them? It's only copy and paste from the Bible. And that's why there is no one single complete story in the Quran except for the story of Joseph. Ok wait! Who's a Muslim? Answer this fess.

Jesus died around 30AD. When was Mark written? About 20-30 years after Jesus died! So we expect changes! Matthew too was written later after Mark. Luke was then written much later. John was written close to 70 years after Jesus.

If you believed the above books as scriptures then you have no moral standing not to believe the Qur'an based on your statement of time! And Scriptures are not story books! It is not a biography of people's life!

And this supreme deity is Allah?

The Supreme deity for Every human is Allah regardless of whatever name you call Him!

AbuTwins:
This has been debunked. Don't embarrass yourself any longer!

Jesus died around 30AD. When was Mark written? About 20-30 years after Jesus died! So we expect changes! Matthew too was written later after Mark. Luke was then written much later. John was written close to 70 years after Jesus.

If you believed the above books as scriptures then you have no moral standing not to believe the Qur'an based on your statement of time! And Scriptures are not story books! It is not a biography of people's life!


The Supreme deity for Every human is Allah regardless of whatever name you call Him!

Which is more reasonable
Accepting the account written by Jesus contemporaries or one written by a man who lived about 600 years later

Akell:


Wow! Just Wow!!

Did you listen to yourself at all?
Your line of reasoning doesn't align. In the Bible, there were old and new covenants. And these two were well documented. None was removed, nothing covered.

All your assertions are false. Many things have been removed and not all document survived.

Evidence is this:
1 Samuel 13:1
1.NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION
Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years.

2. ENGLISH STANDARD VERSION
Saul lived for one year and then became king, and when he had reigned for two years over Israel.

3. KING JAMES BIBLE
Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

4. NET BIBLE
Saul was [thirty] years old when he began to reign; he ruled over Israel for [forty] years.

5. NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE 1977
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned thirty-two years over Israel.

6. JPS TANAKH 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

7. AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

8. YOUNG'S LITERAL VERSION
A son of a year is Saul in his reigning, yea, two years he hath reigned over Israel

The above proves that there are missing words in at least one place. Not everything documented survived!
And copyist made several errors!

However, in the parchment you carry, there were verses that were no longer recited because Allah was alleg d to have given Mohammed new covenants. So, they stop reciting the old ones. And these old ones are not in the Quran when it was finally written.

Maybe you do not even know what abrogation meant in the first place.

There are verses in the Qur'an today that have been abrogated and no more in use! And there are verses no more in the Qur'an that had been abrogated. This is clear to us in Islam.

A Muslim once asked a Muslim turned Christian why he converted. He responded that he doesn't like the concept of abrogation in the Qur'an. The Muslim asked him if he eats pig. He responded yes. The Muslim asked if he knows pig was forbidden in the old testament.

The Christian convert said yes but that is the old testament. The dispensation we have now is that of grace i.e. the New testament!
The Muslim then reply you mean that law that forbids eating pig have been abrogated!

The bell rang in his hear suddenly and everything became dark at the propensity of his foolishness!

Are you even a true Muslim? When last did you drink Camel's urine? 😂

I drank Camel urine when i was sick. Now i am healed. It was over 8 years now!

Remind me, Who are the daughters of the Moon god, Allah? Anyway, that's just ona lighter note.

In Qur'an 112, Allah says He is one!
He begets no one nor is He begotten!

Allah created the moon Qur'an 31:29, Qur'an 10:5, Qur'an 7:54, Qur'an 41:37

And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Prostrate not to the sun nor to the moon, but prostrate to Allah Who created them, if you (really) worship Him. Qur'an 41:37

You are simply a Christian liar! All these lies have been debunked since!

AbuTwins:

I drank Camel urine when i was sick. Now i am healed. It was over 8 years now!

Aemmyjah:


لِّلشَّيَـٰطِينِ ۖ وَأَعْتَدْنَا لَهُمْ عَذَابَ ٱلسَّعِيرِ ٥

And certainly, We have beautified the lowest heaven with bright lights[i.e. stars] and We have made them RUJOOMAN for the devils and We have prepared for them a punishment of blazing heat.

The arabic word is Shayaatin (Satans) which are typically Jinns or devils. Where is demon?

When you ask a Muslim why Muhammad married a 6 year old guy, they say there's no such evidence

Which Biblical law from Jehovah forbids marrying 6 year old?

When you ask them why he asked people to drink camel urine, they say it never happened

I drink Camel urine when i needed to drink it and after i am cured i stopped. Drugs are meant to heal!

When you ask them why he stole his father's son, they said it's a lie

He married his adopted son's divorced wife! And this has since been made legal in Islam.

You claim to memorize but you don't know anything

I know more than you, your max bro and all your JW governing council controlling you from USA.

You won't eat dog or pig cos it's unclean, but you can smoke anything

This is pure lies! Jehovah did forbid those animals in the old testament!

In the Old Testament, the consumption of pig meat (pork) is prohibited in Leviticus 11:7-8 which states:

"And the pig, because it parts the hoof and is cloven-footed but does not chew the cud, is unclean to you. You shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you."
MaxInDHouse should be ashamed of you as an ignorant Jehovah witness!

You say it's only Allah that you must worship but I know many especially the clerics that use juju

Clerics use Juju! Pastors use Juju! Is Juju permitted in Islam or Christianity? No!

MaxInDHouse should be ashamed of you as an ignorant Jehovah witness!

All these Al-Qaeda, Al shabab, Hamas, Boko Haram, ISIL, Hezbollah, Taliban, ISIS, ISWAP... Over 90% of terrorists groups are islamists. Why?

The other 10% are Christians using the Bible right?

Marthin Luther was a terrorist who fought as a Protestant reformist! Na Christian!
Hitler was not a Muslim! He killed over 16 million! This is more than your 90%!

You guys sabi lie!

Aemmyjah:



Which is more reasonable
Accepting the account written by Jesus contemporaries or one written by a man who lived about 600 years later

I would accept the account that is confirmed preserved up till now by memory!
I will accept the account presented by the trustworthy Prophet!

Do you have any proof any of the disciples wrote the New testament?

AbuTwins:


I would accept the account that is confirmed preserved up till now by memory!
I will accept the account presented by the trustworthy Prophet!

Do you have any proof any of the disciples wrote the New testament?

A book of abrogation
😂


Not even scientifically accurate


Lemme ask you
According to the Koran
Between the angels and humans, who's more powerful

Aemmyjah:


Lemme ask you
According to the Koran
Between the angels and humans, who's more powerful

In Islam, Angels have no power and they do nothing except what Allah commands them!
They obey Allah absolutely as they have no freewill!

Humans and Jinns have freewill.