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Re: Jesus Predicted His Death And Resurrection In The Quran by honesttalk21: 12:11pm On May 14 |
Antilslaam: Ala Madudi says Jesus Christ was brought to court to be crucified as a baby you say and you suggest Ibn Kathir also has this view as you claim to reference both of them honesttalk21: See highlighted in red |
Re: Jesus Predicted His Death And Resurrection In The Quran by Antilslaam: 1:20pm On May 14 |
honesttalk21: The below again is Ala Maududi tafsir in regards to Quran 19:33 we are referencing to here, stay on the track and do justice to the questions raised.. This is not the time to go deaf, dumb and blind (19:33) Peace be upon me the day I was born and the day I will die, and the day I will be raised up alive." This speech in the cradle by Jesus was the sign to which the angel referred in( Ayat 21). As Allah intended to punish the children of Israel for their continuous wicked ways and evil deeds, He made a pious virgin girl of the family of Prophet Aaron, who had devoted herself to worship in the Temple under the patronage of Zachariah, bear a child and bring it before her people in order to concentrate the whole attention of the thousands of people assembled there on this extraordinary event. Then He made this new born child speak out even in the cradle that he had been appointed a Prophet. Though they had seen this wonderful sign of Allah, they rejected the Prophethood of Jesus and brought him to the court for crucifixion, and thus incurred the wrath of Allah. THE QUESTION IS: 1. Is Jesus Christ brought to the court for crucifixion as a prophet while in cradle since you said he had been appointed a prophet from the birth N.B. To be on the safer side, just answer YES or NO then we'll move on |
Re: Jesus Predicted His Death And Resurrection In The Quran by honesttalk21: 8:19pm On May 15 |
Antilslaam: When Mary the mother of her Jesus took her baby Jesus to show her people was this a court? Is it the people that brought baby Jesus to the location he spoke as a baby? Was the speech of Jesus as a baby actually part of his prophethood or defense of the peculiar situation of his mother? Did Jesus as a baby debate and castigate the religious leaders of the Jews and Israelites? 4.156-162 Maududi - Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi - Tafhim al-Qur'an This is in continuation of the theme under discussion. The calumny against Mary concerning the birth of Jesus has been declared here as "disbelief" because it was not directed against the person of innocent Mary or her son but against Jesus Christ, the Messenger of God. The Jews had absolutely no ground for suspicion about his miraculous birth without father, because God had caused the whole Community to stand as witness to the miracle. When Virgin Mary, who belonged to the noble and well-known religious family of the Israelites, came home with the new-born child, a large crowd gathered there and demanded an explanation from her. But she simply pointed to the child. The crowd could not understand how a child in the cradle could speak, but to their utter astonishment, the child began to speak clearly and fluently and addressing the crowd, he declared, "I am Allah's servant: Allah has given me the Book and made me a Prophet." (Maryam, XIX : 30) Remember the initial tafsir you stand on is on Maryam, XIX : 30 and Ala Madudi tafsir in on verses 30-33 A simple request that you show where Ibn Kathir also says Jesus was taken to court as a baby and subsequently crucified has been repeated and you pretend not to see it or refuse to answer or both. You're reasoning is surely closed at the moment and I have no more time to waste with you. صُمٌّۢ بُكْمٌ عُمْىٌۭ فَهُمْ لَا يَرْجِعُونَ "Willful ignorance being assembled, so those not revert themselves" |
Re: Jesus Predicted His Death And Resurrection In The Quran by Antilslaam: 11:21pm On May 15 |
honesttalk21: Another one again using question to answer question.. Did you read it from Ala Maududi tafsir that people brought baby Jesus to the location where he spoke as a baby? Diversion tactic which you slaves are good at won't work here anymore. Answer the question before you and stop thinking from your anus |
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