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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by Eddlad: 6:33pm On Nov 30, 2015
plaetton:


I beg to differ sir.

Biologically and psychologically, religion and faith emanate from the most primitive part of our brains,..the part where our basest and most primordial instincts reside.
This is where selfish, fearful beast resides.
It defines reality in extremely narrow, self-centered terms.

This is no wonder that religion , superstition, oppression, violence and war go hand in hand.

In my own life, far too many times I have seen decent people become narrow minded, hateful, fearful, superstitious and selfish , the deeper they go into religion and faith.

The former statements don't bother on the topic so I will ignore.
Your latter statement is lacking the right premise but it could be the start you need, religion( Christianity) and as such the bible and depending on how its "wielded" could be mankind's undoing or redemption. When Satan tempted eve, he wrongly used God's word, in another breadth Jesus fulfilled the scriptures and brought salvation for mankind.

Your observation is not wrong, merely evidence of false and adulterated teachings propounded under guise. Remember that the most important things in life, air and water can be severely catastrophic depending on usage,
religion wrongly used can undo mankind because it's it's our most valuable possession, yet unknown.

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by Nobody: 6:56pm On Nov 30, 2015
Someone once posted a picture of lady without limbs as a good reason to praise God

That is the link below
https://www.nairaland.com/2529148/one-big-reason-must-praise

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by malvisguy212: 7:01pm On Nov 30, 2015
Romans 12:15
14 Bless those who persecute you; bless
and do not curse. 15Rejoice with those
who rejoice, and WEEP WITH THOES WHO WEEP. 16 BE OF THE SAME MIND TOWARD ONE ANOTHER;do not be haughty in mind, but associate with the lowly. Do not be wise in your own estimation.…

Hebrews 13:3
Continue to remember those in prison as if you were together with them in prison, and those who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering.

Any christian acting contrary to this is not a christians, it must be understood that it was the pagan in anthioch who first call the apostles "christians" The term 'Christian' was used to describe a
follwer of Christ in terms of the WORLD,
from the world’s POINT OF VIEW. the
apostles didn’t follow the commercial
world of the pagans. The substance
is NOT in the word "Christian", the
substance is in the HEART OF THE MAN it is attempting to describe, and which
the pagan user cannot see. Peace!!

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by malvisguy212: 7:04pm On Nov 30, 2015
Pyrrho:
Someone once posted a picture of lady without legs as a good reason to thank God


I wept for you, you still have a long way to go in understanding God, until then, stay alive.
Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by Nobody: 7:09pm On Nov 30, 2015
malvisguy212:
I wept for you, you still have a long way to go in understanding God, until then, stay alive.
I bet my last dime if you tell me one thing you know about God apart from what your pastors said or Bible said.

You don't even know the meaning of understanding. If you do, you won't claim understanding of something you call God.


Keep deceiving yourself

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by Nobody: 7:32pm On Nov 30, 2015
There is another thread I just saw...
https://www.nairaland.com/2770877/sad-watch-video-tell-me

It is appalling to think this people believe others with greater problems are reasons to praise God.

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by Nobody: 8:30pm On Nov 30, 2015
imagine how awkward it would be if someone like malvisguy212 was said to have died and someone like kingebukablog then openned a thread to ask christians to thank God that it was malvis that died and not any of them . . .



and then malvisguy read that thread. grin grin

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by hahn(m): 9:13pm On Nov 30, 2015
dearpreye:


My boss, religion without commonsense is a threat to our collective happiness and joy. I could really recall when I was so deep into the abyss of mindless religion, but today I'm far above that torture and the more I become aware of myself the more sympathy I show towards the sufferings and misfortunes of others.
Today, I'm more connected with the sufferings and pains of others than when I was deeply religious and extremely selfish.

Most of us Christians have totally deviated from the teachings of Christ and have instead steeped into selfishness, hypocrisy and condemnation of others.

OP, I would have made the same comment as did the woman when I was a religious fanatic, when I used to believe bad things happen to others because they're less pious than me. But today, that kind of devilish mindset is totally strange to me.

grin grin

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by malvisguy212: 9:17pm On Nov 30, 2015
Pyrrho:
I bet my last dime if you tell me one thing you know about God apart from what your pastors said or Bible said.

You don't even know the meaning of understanding. If you do, you won't claim understanding of something you call God.


Keep deceiving yourself
are you reffering me to a pastor ? Alright.
Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by hahn(m): 9:19pm On Nov 30, 2015
Teempakguy:
imagine how awkward it would be if someone like malvisguy212 was said to have died and someone like kingebukasblog then opened a thread to ask christians to thank God that it was malvis that died and not any of them . . .



and then malvisguy read that thread. grin grin

Lol. Comments will be like "thank god it wasn't anyone in my family. May such evil never befall us IJN" grin

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by malvisguy212: 9:20pm On Nov 30, 2015
Pyrrho:
Someone once posted a picture of lady without limbs as a good reason to praise God

That is the link below
https://www.nairaland.com/2529148/one-big-reason-must-praise
in other word , the lady should curse God and die ? Satanic atheist.

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by malvisguy212: 9:25pm On Nov 30, 2015
Teempakguy:
imagine how awkward it would be if someone like malvisguy212 was said to have died and someone like kingebukablog then openned a thread to ask christians to thank God that it was malvis that died and not any of them . . .
and then malvisguy read that thread. grin grin
]
hahn:

Lol. Comments will be like "thank god it wasn't anyone in my family. May such evil never befall us IJN" grin
malvisguy212:
Romans 12:15
14 Bless those who persecute you; bless
and do not curse. 15Rejoice with those
who rejoice, and WEEP WITH THOES WHO WEEP. 16 BE OF THE SAME MIND TOWARD ONE ANOTHER;do not be haughty in mind, but associate with the lowly. Do not be wise in your own estimation.…

Hebrews 13:3
Continue to remember those in prison as if you were together with them in prison, and those who are mistreated as if you yourselves were suffering.

Any christian acting contrary to this is not a christians, it must be understood that it was the pagan in anthioch who first call the apostles "christians" The term 'Christian' was used to describe a
follwer of Christ in terms of the WORLD,
from the world’s POINT OF VIEW. the
apostles didn’t follow the commercial
world of the pagans. The substance
is NOT in the word "Christian", the
substance is in the HEART OF THE MAN it is attempting to describe, and which
the pagan user cannot see. Peace!!
Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by hahn(m): 9:37pm On Nov 30, 2015
malvisguy212:
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*yawns*
Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by ichommy(m): 9:46pm On Nov 30, 2015
grin
hahn:


Lol. Comments will be like "thank god it wasn't anyone in my family. May such evil never befall us IJN" grin

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by frank317: 10:19pm On Nov 30, 2015
Teempakguy:
imagine how awkward it would be if someone like malvisguy212 was said to have died and someone like kingebukablog then openned a thread to ask christians to thank God that it was malvis that died and not any of them . . .



and then malvisguy read that thread. grin grin

Lol..this got me cracking yet made so much sense.

I had an accident two years ago, broke my ankle and was bedridden for six months. Some gullible Christians asked that I should thank God I broke my leg instead of head or outrightly dying.
And I am like,; do these guys realize I have been. In pain for three months, spent my last cash on surgery, and lost a job?
Was God like... "Oh oh oh, let me just allow him to break a leg instead of letting him die." Hello God, this ain't fun anymore... Pain is real.

I lost my fiance (while still on crutches) ln a different accident that claimed 80 lives, a guy survived but he was badly burnt. His image was paraded on Facebook 6 months later and people where actually thanking God he survived... This was another phase of trauma for me.

I have become a sympathetic person over the years, I put myself in people's position before responding to sad issues or even judging people.

A Muslim opened a thread describing how God miraculously allowed some mosques to stand after an earthquake that claimed thousands of life... I really dont know what to say about such a God.

If God actually exist, and is as wicked, heartless and uncaring as religious folks make him to look like, then the world is in trouble.

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by Scholar8200(m): 8:12am On Dec 01, 2015
keenn:


Nigga, it seems you Christian guys hurry to forget that some, if not most atheist and agnostic alike were once religionist/Christians. You argue this out as if this (giving testimonies with reference to the unlucky) is a less occurrence in christaindom and is practiced by fanatics, geesss!

I am yet to see a church that encourages sharing of testimonies and the above claim is not practiced, am yet. I stand to be corrected.

The topic does not major on religionist been non-compationate (some religionist are best of people) but rather questions why praise should be giving to a god with reference to the ill or those with challenges.

As regards ur questions on the biblical account, well I can only assume that "the biblical god just proofed he can choose to save whom he chooses to save"

He is a loving god.
your opinion is noted.
Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by Anas09: 9:57am On Dec 01, 2015
My good friend John. Why didn't you use the teachings of christ which encourages lack of compassion and love for the next person to buttress ur point here? You picked a single lady who may or may not even be a christ follower, but obviously ignorant Of her actions, and use that as a premise to give room to this blasphemy?

Why did Christ give the Parable of the good Sammritan? If we are Christ's followers shdnt we look at what he did and do same?
John, I will say, if u want to bash, start from Christ. Start picking His uncompassionate stands.
My dear, people are so selfish, its not because of their Creed, its just human nature.

Let me ask you dear John. If you were carrying ur one month old chubby daughter, and accidentally someone dropped hot Coals on u and ur baby, tell me ur honest truth, will you remove the coals from ur baby before removing urs? Human natures triggers in instinctively, before you even stop to consider, you'll renove urs first. Its human nature, its not because u r religious.
Now what that woman did and most of us do, espercially, the 'its not my portion' minset/kind of people, is ungodly. Its unchristian. If its not my portion, so its whose portion? Where did they even get that from?
These things can happen to anybody. I remember wen I had an accident. I was on a bike and an absent minded driver who forgot he was driving until he hit us, struck us. I fell in the middle of road when offices had closed and everyone was rushing home. A crowd gathered, but all they did was shout, scream but no one made any effort to help me. I was bledding my life out, they were just shouting. my left leg was so smatched, flesh scrabbed out of my bone, my bone was broken and bare. Probably it was the sight, but no one helped. I musttered strength and started begging for someone to help and not let me die in the midst of all these people.

One guy who I got to know later, who just got to the scene, he was a boyscout, no vehicle would stop, so he blocked the road and forced a grudging cabbie to take me to the hospital.

Tell me john, in that crowd were they only christians?
Lack of compassion knows no creed. So stop this baseless bashing.

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by frank317: 10:57am On Dec 01, 2015
Anas09:
My good friend John. Why didn't you use the teachings of christ which encourages lack of compassion and love for the next person to buttress ur point here? You picked a single lady who may or may not even be a christ follower, but obviously ignorant Of her actions, and use that as a premise to give room to this blasphemy?
and this proves our point all these while. we have good christians and good atheist. this thread is about those religious practices that are quite disturbing. And unfortunately almost all christians do this, you cant deny is just as you even try to justify it below. such testimonies are given in all churches, such prayers are made in the bus among christians... you can't deny it.


Why did Christ give the Parable of the good Sammritan? If we are Christ's followers shdnt we look at what he did and do same?
John, I will say, if u want to bash, start from Christ. Start picking His uncompassionate stands.
My dear, people are so selfish, its not because of their Creed, its just human nature.
seriously, being a good person is not about christ and that the point. You guys think atheists are demons and evil. there are philanthropic atheists who didnt need to read about the christ story to do good to others. you floor the whole good samaritan preaching when you lack empathy. and it would do you good to pick out those general atheist attributes that you think is harmful to human existence just as Johnny has picked this undenaible christian attribute that is quite disturbing. Again, being good is not about christ.


Let me ask you dear John. If you were carrying ur one month old chubby daughter, and accidentally someone dropped hot Coals on u and ur baby, tell me ur honest truth, will you remove the coals from ur baby before removing urs? Human natures triggers in instinctively, before you even stop to consider, you'll renove urs first. Its human nature, its not because u r religious.
thank you.
so where does this religion, this christ, this God, you guys call day and night really come in.


Now what that woman did and most of us do, espercially, the 'its not my portion' minset/kind of people, is ungodly. Its unchristian. If its not my portion, so its whose portion? Where did they even get that from?
most of us do? Yet it is wrong!!!! you call it unchristian but it is quite clear that the believe in a God, who likes you specially because you believe in his son, promotes this disturbing action. You can't deny it


These things can happen to anybody. I remember wen I had an accident. I was on a bike and an absent minded driver who forgot he was driving until he hit us, struck us. I fell in the middle of road when offices had closed and everyone was rushing home. A crowd gathered, but all they did was shout, scream but no one made any effort to help me. I was bledding my life out, they were just shouting. my left leg was so smatched, flesh scrabbed out of my bone, my bone was broken and bare. Probably it was the sight, but no one helped. I musttered strength and started begging for someone to help and not let me die in the midst of all these people.

One guy who I got to know later, who just got to the scene, he was a boyscout, no vehicle would stop, so he blocked the road and forced a grudging cabbie to take me to the hospital.

Tell me john, in that crowd were they only christians?
Lack of compassion knows no creed. So stop this baseless bashing.

Nice, but lack of compassion is wrong and its quite disturbing that Christianity and even Islam promotes it. Listen to christian testimonies, of God loving them specially becasue they prayed. I hear it every day in the church, Pastors categorically telling members to go to hospitals and see sick people or give them example of people who slept last night and didnt wake up, and telling them this is the reason they should THANK GOD... wtf

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by Anas09: 7:24pm On Dec 01, 2015
^^. No I don't see Atheist as demons, No. I see them as angry, just like you right now. You know there's God, you are just angry U can't have God under ur whims and Caprices. You want a God who will explain his every move to U, A God u can command around, something you can't even do to me, talkless of ur father. You for one, are just a spoiled child, throwing tantrums
No I don't think Atheists are evil. At least the ones I judged to be atheist indeed, because most of you are not. Ur inclinations keeps changing.
I have said it before, the only person I can truly call an atheist so far is johnnydon22, and I don't think he is evil. All others are just God haters.
That said. since you feel christian teachings are disturbing, don't you think it will be a good idea if u post those teachings here for the world to see? Like ii said, post jesus' teachings that admonishes his followers to be selfish and not show compassion.
Am waiting.
Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by Ganjafama(m): 7:38pm On Dec 01, 2015
This is why I hate religion with passion. One minute somebody is in church dancing and singing praises the next minute he/is wishing harm for his neighbour. I know some of the christian folks will think that they are being attacked. But the truth needs to be told, religion (Islam and christianity) is an evil scourge that needs to be purged out of existence.

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by frank317: 10:24pm On Dec 01, 2015
Anas09:
^^. No I don't see Atheist as demons, No. I see them as angry, just like you right now. You know there's God, you are just angry U can't have God under ur whims and Caprices. You want a God who will explain his every move to U, A God u can command around, something you can't even do to me, talkless of ur father. You for one, are just a spoiled child, throwing tantrums
No I don't think Atheists are evil. At least the ones I judged to be atheist indeed, because most of you are not. Ur inclinations keeps changing.
I have said it before, the only person I can truly call an atheist so far is johnnydon22, and I don't think he is evil. All others are just God haters.
That said. since you feel christian teachings are disturbing, don't you think it will be a good idea if u post those teachings here for the world to see? Like ii said, post jesus' teachings that admonishes his followers to be selfish and not show compassion.
Am waiting.

Address the topic no one is arguing if God exists on not here.
If God like let him exist, or not. It changes nothing.

Lol... Who are we, ordinary humans, to be angry at an almighty creator, this una creator don suffer.

I responded to you Jesus response to the op. Weather Jesus preached compassionor not, Christianity promotes such absord behaviour, you can't deny the proves I presented up there.

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by Anas09: 11:53pm On Dec 01, 2015
^^
Christianity promotes such absord behaviour, you can't deny the proves I presented up there.
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shocked :oReally? Christianity promotes absord behavour? Can you please mention such absord behavours with their scriptural references?

Am never to lie, but if I lie that makes christianity evil?
Am a Christian, and I empathise. Any Christian who is not compassionate is not a follower of Christ. I thought Christianity focuses or is moulded by the teachings of Christ? If you come across a disobidient christian who goes out of her way to be selfish, do u think that that fellow is a model through which u shd judge Christianity by?

Again, I reiterate. Drop those Christ' teachings that promotes those absort b ehavours here for the world to see.

angry angry Little Kids who can't control their own habits, wants to control God.
Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by menesheh(m): 1:26am On Dec 02, 2015
Anas09:
^^. No I don't see Atheist as demons, No. I see them as angry, just like you right now. You know there's God, you are just angry U can't have God under ur whims and Caprices. You want a God who will explain his every move to U, A God u can command around, something you can't even do to me, talkless of ur father. You for one, are just a spoiled child, throwing tantrums
No I don't think Atheists are evil. At least the ones I judged to be atheist indeed, because most of you are not. Ur inclinations keeps changing.
I have said it before, the only person I can truly call an atheist so far is johnnydon22, and I don't think he is evil. All others are just God haters.
That said. since you feel christian teachings are disturbing, don't you think it will be a good idea if u post those teachings here for the world to see? Like ii said, post jesus' teachings that admonishes his followers to be selfish and not show compassion.
Am waiting.


First of all, you continued to assert that we all know that god exist and still hate him, while we're only disbelieving your claims of such gods existence, that makes you demonstrably dishonest.

Here is a thing, Can you really not see the difference between forcing an action or belief on someone, and politely suggesting that they consider it?


You and winner01 continue to labour us god haters, while we're actually requesting for the evidence of such god. You are the hater here because, any person who doesn't belong to your club should be object of detest.

You tend to generalise all gods in one basket. You too disbelief in all other gods other than the particular one you believe. Those people you disbelieve in their own version of god will as well refer you as god hater.

I appreciates it as you said that only johnydon22 is the only atheist on Nairaland. I don't even care if you should labour me and bunch of other people with similar disbelieve as ATHEISTS, i only care what's true.

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by keenn: 3:30am On Dec 02, 2015
Anas09:
My good friend John. Why didn't you use the teachings of christ which encourages lack of compassion and love for the next person to buttress ur point here? You picked a single lady who may or may not even be a christ follower, but obviously ignorant Of her actions, and use that as a premise to give room to this blasphemy?

Why did Christ give the Parable of the good Sammritan? If we are Christ's followers shdnt we look at what he did and do same?
John, I will say, if u want to bash, start from Christ. Start picking His uncompassionate stands.
My dear, people are so selfish, its not because of their Creed, its just human nature.

Let me ask you dear John. If you were carrying ur one month old chubby daughter, and accidentally someone dropped hot Coals on u and ur baby, tell me ur honest truth, will you remove the coals from ur baby before removing urs? Human natures triggers in instinctively, before you even stop to consider, you'll renove urs first. Its human nature, its not because u r religious.
Now what that woman did and most of us do, espercially, the 'its not my portion' minset/kind of people, is ungodly. Its unchristian. If its not my portion, so its whose portion? Where did they even get that from?
These things can happen to anybody. I remember wen I had an accident. I was on a bike and an absent minded driver who forgot he was driving until he hit us, struck us. I fell in the middle of road when offices had closed and everyone was rushing home. A crowd gathered, but all they did was shout, scream but no one made any effort to help me. I was bledding my life out, they were just shouting. my left leg was so smatched, flesh scrabbed out of my bone, my bone was broken and bare. Probably it was the sight, but no one helped. I musttered strength and started begging for someone to help and not let me die in the midst of all these people.

One guy who I got to know later, who just got to the scene, he was a boyscout, no vehicle would stop, so he blocked the road and forced a grudging cabbie to take me to the hospital.

Tell me john, in that crowd were they only christians?
Lack of compassion knows no creed. So stop this baseless bashing.


Who is this?

What kind of mother are u or will u become?

U mean u will remove a hot coal from ur body before helping a month old baby? That's serious!

Many times have I seen mothers wrapping and judiciously protecting their children in dangerous situation such as automobile head-on collision. They so graciously puts their children in arms way disregarding what fate the accident might cause to them, this is instinctive mother hood in play.

I hope u haven't portrayed urself in a bad light to me and everyone here.

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by frank317: 6:02am On Dec 02, 2015
Anas09:
^^
Christianity promotes such absord behaviour, you can't deny the proves I presented up there.
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shocked :oReally? Christianity promotes absord behavour? Can you please mention such absord behavours with their scriptural references?

Am never to lie, but if I lie that makes christianity evil?
Am a Christian, and I empathise. Any Christian who is not compassionate is not a follower of Christ. I thought Christianity focuses or is moulded by the teachings of Christ? If you come across a disobidient christian who goes out of her way to be selfish, do u think that that fellow is a model through which u shd judge Christianity by?

Again, I reiterate. Drop those Christ' teachings that promotes those absort b ehavours here for the world to see.

angry angry Little Kids who can't control their own habits, wants to control God.

Oh yeah? Do you deny ever hearing numerous pastors and Christians giving testimonies of how God rescued them in accidents that involved deaths or injuries? Do you deny Christians making this prayer point; thanking God for keeping them alive, saying that many have died in their sleep? Pastors asking people to be grateful to God for not being among those in hospital bed or mortuary?
The worst part is days, weeks, months or years later, this same Christians are found in the conditions they have been praying against and thanking God for. You can't deny Christianity promoting this disturbing behaviour.


Lol little kids wants to control God? Its all your fault... Are you not the one saying we little kids had God? And I ask who are we to hate God?

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by Anas09: 3:06pm On Dec 02, 2015
@Frank317
What you are saying still don't hold water.
I said , give me scriptural backings as to the teachings of Christ. Not what mere men are infusing into christianity. Pastors don't define christianity, Christ does.
A pastor is feeding people life serpents, his sperms, and grass giving his own interpretation of what he feels those things are. Shd I stop being a christian base on that?
There's a church in my street where the Pastor attends to ur problem according to ur age. 1k for each year. He is a practical ocult man, doing his thing openly. Shd I now say Christianity is fake? If these things don't happen, then I have believed a lie. Jesus told me to look out for all of these, including you.
I can not base my belief in christ looking at what my general overseer does. He will answer for himself. Am not a professor, but I can read. Am not blind I can read my Bible for myself. Yes I fall into sin every now and then, but that doesn't mean Christianity is wrong.


Again Frank, give me verses of the scriptures where Jesus teaches his followers to be selfish and not feel comapssion for others. Why did Jesus even die?
Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by frank317: 3:50pm On Dec 02, 2015
Anas09:
@Frank317
What you are saying still don't hold water.
I said , give me scriptural backings as to the teachings of Christ. Not what mere men are infusing into christianity. Pastors don't define christianity, Christ does.
A pastor is feeding people life serpents, his sperms, and grass giving his own interpretation of what he feels those things are. Shd I stop being a christian base on that?
There's a church in my street where the Pastor attends to ur problem according to ur age. 1k for each year. He is a practical ocult man, doing his thing openly. Shd I now say Christianity is fake? If these things don't happen, then I have believed a lie. Jesus told me to look out for all of these, including you.
I can not base my belief in christ looking at what my general overseer does. He will answer for himself. Am not a professor, but I can read. Am not blind I can read my Bible for myself. Yes I fall into sin every now and then, but that doesn't mean Christianity is wrong.


Again Frank, give me verses of the scriptures where Jesus teaches his followers to be selfish and not feel comapssion for others. Why did Jesus even die?

You are purposely trying to be cunning. but i am not going to go that way with you. I said Christianity encourages that kind of behaviour. Do you believe that so many things about islam indirectly encourages terrorism?

Glad you hve made instances of people misunderstanding the bible and misdirecting people with it, THE BIBLE, A supposedly word of the almighty creator, is used to misdirect people and you dont find anything wrong with that? if this book you guys believe is the mannual of life sent by almighty all knowing creator is also used to misdirect innocent people... then something is wrong.

I am not interested if Jesus preaches compassion or not since thats not the basis for my argument. I am telling you what 95 percent of christians do. thats a high statistics for me. In fact I have never seen a christian who does not think God favours him specially becasue he believes in jesus. in fact that is the selling point of christianity. isnt that why most people run to churches in the first place?

So if i have never been to a church before and vist one for the first time, only to hear testimonies about how God allowed a christian to survive in a crash that killed 5people, what do you expect me to think. worst still. All preaching, i mean all preachings i have heard encourages such behaviour, weather its in the bible or not does not matter her.

if 99 christians are theives and yet jesus never asked anyone to steal, i will ask myself what is it about christianity that is making people steal. This is the question you should be asking urself instead of asking me irrelevant questions about jesus and compassion.

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by Anas09: 4:06pm On Dec 02, 2015
@Keen. Lol. Its not about being a mother. Ok, let me create a scenario for you. God beats his chest about his servant Job to Satan. Satan says, Job does not serve you faithfully for nothing. He went on to mention all God has done for Job. Satan says remove all those things and see that Jon will curse you to ur face. So God gives Satan the go ahead to remove all including his Children, yet Job remains faithful.
Now here is your answer.
Job 2:4. And Satan answered and said to the Lord, Skin for Skin, all that a man has he will give for his life.
@keen do you understand ^^?
Even satan knew that to get a man is to burn his skin directly, not thinking you can break him by hurting his child, yes he'll be hurt but not as much as he'll be wen burnt directly. This is the point am trying to make, not that I won't do everything to save my child. But instively, u'd save urself first.
Skin for skin. You feel what touches ur skin first, before empathising with others in the same situation.
So please don't think you made a point.
Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by Anas09: 5:00pm On Dec 02, 2015
Frank, the last time I checked, you were an atheist. What actually informed ur atheism? Is it the 99percent Christian thieves or their lack of compassion?

If u walked into a church for the first time and am standing up there giving a testimony of how I escape death, you'll also hear me saying, am not in anyway better than those who didn't make it. because I am a sinner or even worst than them. Grace differs.
Any christian who rejoices because calamity came upon his enemy, doesn't know the scripture.
The Bible in proverbs 24:17 says- Rejoice not wen your enemy falls, and let not ur heart be glad when he stumbles, lest the Lord see it and it displeases him, and he turn his wrath from ur enemy.

Remember this is ur enemy. The one who wants u dead. The Lord says, don't rejoice if am purnishing him for his sins. How much less a man who did nothing to you?
Listen. Bad things happen to everybody. Its turn by turn. We only thank God for the chance we are given, not that we celebrate the fall of the next person.

Besides, only ignorant folk feel death is a bad thing. The Bible in Ps116:15 says. Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints. If you are saint, you are just going home.
And Apst Paul says to live is Christ and to die is gain.
Only those who know they r not living rightly see death as dreadful.
Bottomline, no one celebrates the fall of others, at least I don't.
Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by frank317: 5:13pm On Dec 02, 2015
Anas09:
Frank, the last time I checked, you were an atheist. What actually informed ur atheism? Is it the 99percent Christian thieves or their lack of compassion?
unanswered questions, critical thinking and make believe stories informed my atheism. it is the 99% lack of compassion.


If u walked into a church for the first time and am standing up there giving a testimony of how I escape death, you'll also hear me saying, am not in anyway better than those who didn't make it. because I am a sinner or even worst than them. Grace differs.
yes some say this... but, it is still meaningless. what do u mean by Grace differ? do u even understand the implication of this? if you know grace differs, what excatly are u tanking God for? for giving u a lucky grace and given those unfortunate people who broke their leg even their they are better than u an unfavourable grace? who is sharing this grace? based on what criteria? it just keep getting worst as u try to explain it.


Any christian who rejoices because calamity came upon his enemy, doesn't know the scripture.
The Bible in proverbs 24:17 says- Rejoice not wen your enemy falls, and let not ur heart be glad when he stumbles, lest the Lord see it and it displeases him, and he turn his wrath from ur enemy.

Remember this is ur enemy. The one who wants u dead. The Lord says, don't rejoice if am purnishing him for his sins. How much less a man who did nothing to you?
Listen. Bad things happen to everybody. Its turn by turn. We only thank God for the chance we are given, not that we celebrate the fall of the next person.

Besides, only ignorant folk feel death is a bad thing. The Bible in Ps116:15 says. Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints. If you are saint, you are just going home.
And Apst Paul says to live is Christ and to die is gain.
Only those who know they r not living rightly see death as dreadful.
Bottomline, no one celebrates the fall of others, at least I don't.
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its not only about death... injury too.

Good you dont... i dont too, so its not a christian thing if u dont. But many many many many christians do it, so its a christian thing to do it.

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Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by Anas09: 5:43pm On Dec 02, 2015
Yes Frank. Christ will favour me becos I believe in Him, and believing in Him comes with sacrifices. And why not? Here you are. You and ur crowd, using every methodology to turn folk from Christ. Planting doubts in the hearts of Children. Preying on the weak and ignorant. But my resolve remains unshaken. I had to give up my very comfortable relatiionshp because I can't continue in fornication. I had to tell the truth even though I know it will terminate my contract in this hash weather. I had to giveup virtually everything I have ever known for the sake of Christ. I fight within myself everyday to renew my thoughts. See things as Christ sees them, even though situations says contrary.
I have to give up talking carelessly. Name calling was always in my mouth. Criticism, abuse, insults, castigation. All these I had to giveup. My lust, habits. A lot. Its no small task. I have not reached there yet, but am in the process. But you are free to do, say, act as you like. Its not enough for you to engage in nominal sins, but you have the impetus to stand and wag your little shrunk finger in the face of the Only Potentate. Ahhhhhh. Becos Sentence against sin is not executed speedily, the hearts of men are set in them to continue in their evil ways...but hand upon a hand the sinner shall not escape. Eccl 8:11
Why won't he favour me? If I will obey him and love him enough to giveup what he says give up?
The Bible is a Two Edged sword. Its sharp both ways. If as a person, you bear fruits, it prunes and purdges you so that you can do better, but if you are against, it has the ability to cut you off and throw you down into the pit.
Read whatever u want to into the Word of God. Its affects only you and those around you.
Re: Disturbing Religious Selfishness (eroding Compassion) by frank317: 8:04pm On Dec 02, 2015
Anas09:
Yes Frank. Christ will favour me becos I believe in Him, and believing in Him comes with sacrifices. And why not? Here you are. You and ur crowd, using every methodology to turn folk from Christ. Planting doubts in the hearts of Children. Preying on the weak and ignorant. But my resolve remains unshaken. I had to give up my very comfortable relatiionshp because I can't continue in fornication. I had to tell the truth even though I know it will terminate my contract in this hash weather. I had to giveup virtually everything I have ever known for the sake of Christ. I fight within myself everyday to renew my thoughts. See things as Christ sees them, even though situations says contrary.
I have to give up talking carelessly. Name calling was always in my mouth. Criticism, abuse, insults, castigation. All these I had to giveup. My lust, habits. A lot. Its no small task. I have not reached there yet, but am in the process. But you are free to do, say, act as you like. Its not enough for you to engage in nominal sins, but you have the impetus to stand and wag your little shrunk finger in the face of the Only Potentate. Ahhhhhh. Becos Sentence against sin is not executed speedily, the hearts of men are set in them to continue in their evil ways...but hand upon a hand the sinner shall not escape. Eccl 8:11
Why won't he favour me? If I will obey him and love him enough to giveup what he says give up?
The Bible is a Two Edged sword. Its sharp both ways. If as a person, you bear fruits, it prunes and purdges you so that you can do better, but if you are against, it has the ability to cut you off and throw you down into the pit.
Read whatever u want to into the Word of God. Its affects only you and those around you.

Finally you accept you act this way even as a Christian, why were u wasting my time and pretending u didn't understand what I was saying.

Now you have given a detail of the sacrifice you make to be a christian and why the God u serve should favour you among others. But what you dont know is that you are indirectly saying that since you make such sacrifices to be a christian you deserve a special favour while those who dont deserve what befalls them because they didn't make the sacrifice u made. Do you see how Christianity breeds such disturbing behaviour u have been denying all these while? Jesus didn't have to tell you to do it... Yet u are doing it.

BREAKING NEWS: Despite your sacrifices, no God favours you more than anybody. Your life is just a wish. We all have the same chance of facing bad and good conditions. I have never been sick since 2007 yet I see Christians who make sacrifice get admitted in hospital. Its about chance not any God.
Your life is just a make belief, nothing but a wish since u believe u have made huge sacrifice for God and should reap the good or ur sacrifice. So many people, many atheist, are living much better than you. While you look around u and encourage urself that the good things around you are as a result of your sacrifice. And when one atheist faces a bad condition u quickly think he deserves it. Keep on living in delusion. U are losing both ways.

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