sonmvayina:


this has got nothing to do with royal plural, remember the satanic verses, if Allah has daughters, then he must have a partner as in a consult. Allah is the moon god, SIN/NANNA . who had three daughters, the first is INANNA, who is lucifer. i guess she would be Alat

in genesis chapter 1:26 God was talking to the earth as the earth provided the dust for creating the body of man while God breath into it to bring it to life..

God was not talking to the earth in Genesis 1:26. The verse states, “Then God said, ‘Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.’” In this context, God is divinely and the verse reflects the use of the majestic plural with God.

Your thoughts are extremely far reaching.
Sumerian a language of Mesopotamia belongs to an isolated language family, while Arabic is part of the Semitic language family. This difference indicates distinct linguistic origins for both languages.

And if you choose Akkadian then you must know that despite some similarities due to their common Semitic roots, Akkadian and Arabic have significant differences in terms of vocabulary, grammar, and phonetics. While there may be some lexical overlap or shared features due to their historical connections, the overall structures of these languages are distinct.

Your extraneous drive to relate the pre-islamic idols are interesting but totally baseless. Allah begets not and neither is he begotten

RightChannel:


Jesus preached to many, both the Jews and Gentiles. He heals many and preached the kingdom of his father which is his primary assignment on earth

Allah didn't save any, throughout the whole Quran no one is ever recorded to that he or she was saved by Allah. Even Muhammad his messenger was abandoned by Allah after he was poisoned to death. Abu bakr and all companions of Muhammad thought Allah will save him but they were shocked and disappointed as Allah couldn't save his own messenger

This is the reason why you fail comprehension passages!

Who did Jesus ever tell to accept him as lord and saviour?

Ken4Christ:


Allah that couldn't save his messenger, Muhammad. Muhammad confessed his hopelessness in Sura 46:9.

Jesus too confessed he is helpless in John 5:30.
That's the reason he was praying!

RightChannel:





The Gods you said we called Three, who are you referring to that they called their Gods three and I am asking you to differentiate between Gods and God and to quote where Jehovah is refer to as Gods in the Bible, again as Gods

You have three Gods in one according to the nicene creed!

Three different Gods!

Did you know the different between God, gods and Gods?

Yes, Father is one God!
Son is another God!
Spirit is another God!
Three Gods!

Jesus will sit at the right hand of the father! That's two Gods!

AbuTwins:


This is the reason why you fail comprehension passages!

Who did Jesus ever tell to accept him as lord and saviour?

You will never comprehend or accept simple sentence even if I show you but read the below Bible verses if you can comprehend them

John 11

25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; 26 and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?”

27 “Yes, Lord,” she replied, “I believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”


Allah didn't save any, throughout the whole Quran no one is ever recorded to that he or she was saved by Allah. Even Muhammad his messenger was abandoned by Allah after he was poisoned to death. Abu bakr and all companions of Muhammad thought Allah will save him but they were shocked and disappointed as Allah couldn't save his own messenger


Can you name anyone in Quran that accept Muhammad as a genuine prophet of God and name a soul allah saves throughout the quran

AbuTwins:
You have three Gods in one according to the nicene creed!

Three different Gods!




Yes, Father is one God!
Son is another God!
Spirit is another God!
Three Gods!

Jesus will sit at the right hand of the father! That's two Gods!

Why not quote where Bible says you have Three Gods in One? You are a failure trying to cover your shame with falsehood. Quote where Bible mention Three Gods in one!

RightChannel:


Why not quote where Bible says you have Three Gods in One? You are a failure trying to cover your shame with falsehood. Quote where Bible mention Three Gods in one!

The Bible didn't mention trinity!
The Bible didn't mention Jesus as God!
The Bible didn't call Holy spirit God!

It's adapted from the nicene creed and other creeds!

RightChannel:


You will never comprehend or accept simple sentence even if I show you but read the below Bible verses if you can comprehend them

John 11

25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; 26 and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?”

27 “Yes, Lord,” she replied, “I believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”

I was expecting to see Jesus calling himself lord and personal saviour! Where is it? Muslims too believes Jesus was the Messiah sent to the people of Israel!

Allah didn't save any, throughout the whole Quran no one is ever recorded to that he or she was saved by Allah. Even Muhammad his messenger was abandoned by Allah after he was poisoned to death. Abu bakr and all companions of Muhammad thought Allah will save him but they were shocked and disappointed as Allah couldn't save his own messenger

Can you name anyone in Quran that accept Muhammad as a genuine prophet of God and name a soul allah saves throughout the quran

This comment shows you lack depth in thinking! The whole Mecca to Madina was liberated from Idolatry during the Prophet's time.

How did your Jesus die? Didn't your God forsook him? You are so ignorant!

Can Yahweh save Jesus from being killed?
Can't he save John the baptist from being beheaded as a birthday gift?

Your reasoning in this regard is illogical and irrational!

AbuTwins:


I was expecting to see Jesus calling himself lord and personal saviour! Where is it? Muslims too believes Jesus was the Messiah sent to the people of Israel!

This shows the level of your brain, see what I've turn you into after answering your question. It is now you're expecting to see Jesus calling himself Lord right? I even have the verses where he called himself Lord, Saviour and God but I am very sure you'll still shifted the goal post to you are expecting to see where he called himself Jesus. You are a shameless being I've ever come across with here

AbuTwins:

Who did Jesus ever tell to accept him as lord and saviour?

AbuTwins:

This comment shows you lack depth in thinking! The whole Mecca to Madina was liberated from Idolatry during the Prophet's time.

How did your Jesus die? Didn't your God forsook him? You are so ignorant!

Can Yahweh save Jesus from being killed?
Can't he save John the baptist from being beheaded as a birthday gift?

Your reasoning in this regard is illogical and irrational!

How does your write up answer the question I asked? This is the question again but this time around read slowly and gently but if it is difficult for your brain to grab and assimilate, look for a toddler that can read and write to help you out

Can you name anyone in Quran that accept Muhammad as a genuine prophet of God and name a soul allah saves throughout the quran



Yahweh didn't saved Jesus alone but he gave him power to resurrected back to life. When I read the story of Muhammad on how he was poisoned and left for many days with his body rotted hoping that Allah will performed miracle by raising him up from the dead, I weeped bitterly as his companions were disappointed in Allah which he served for years can't saved him from eating poisonous meat and watching him passing through pains that took his life

AbuTwins:


The Bible didn't mention trinity!
The Bible didn't mention Jesus as God!
The Bible didn't call Holy spirit God!

It's adapted from the nicene creed and other creeds!

Another one again, to be serious didn't you notice that something is wrong with you this morning?

Here is what I said you should do, stop beating around the bush!

RightChannel:


Why not quote where Bible says you have Three Gods in One? You are a failure trying to cover your shame with falsehood. Quote where Bible mention Three Gods in one!

RightChanneI:


Another one again, to be serious didn't you notice that something is wrong with you this morning?

Here is what I said you should do, stop beating around the bush!

The Bible no get mouth to talk!

Hear O Israel the Lord our God is one!

Church fathers divided the One into three for una!

RightChanneI:


This shows the level of your brain, see what I've turn you into after answering your question. It is now you're expecting to see Jesus calling himself Lord right? I even have the verses where he called himself Lord, Saviour and God but I am very sure you'll still shifted the goal post to you are expecting to see where he called himself Jesus. You are a shameless being I've ever come across with here

Show us where Jesus met a non-Christian and told him/her to accept him as Lord and savior!

How does your write up answer the question I asked? This is the question again but this time around read slowly and gently but if it is difficult for your brain to grab and assimilate, look for a toddler that can read and write to help you out

[quote]Can you name anyone in Quran that accept Muhammad as a genuine prophet of God and name a soul allah saves throughout the quran

The Qur'an is not the book of life that records the names of those saved! I think i have answered you well enough!

Yahweh didn't saved Jesus alone but he gave him power to resurrected back to life.

Yahweh couldn't save him and John the Baptist! They had to die! Yahweh needs blood to save people not like ritualists!

When I read the story of Muhammad on how he was poisoned and left for many days with his body rotted hoping that Allah will performed miracle by raising him up from the dead, I weeped bitterly as his companions were disappointed in Allah which he served for years can't saved him from eating poisonous meat and watching him passing through pains that took his life

The Prophet died after a few years of being poisoned by a Jew!
Your Biblical Jesus was betrayed by Jews and crucified by the Romans!
Your John the Baptist was beheaded as birthday Gift!
Samson killed himself with a house full of people!

You can continue to weep bitterly now!

AbuTwins:


Show us where Jesus met a non-Christian and told him/her to accept him as Lord and savior!

Jesus met a non-Christian when he is Christ.. Are you this daft so as not to know the meaning of Christian at this stage of your life? Damn! I'm so sorry for you!


You should put it this way as you are totally confused on what to ask again; Show us where Jesus met a Muslim and told him/her to accept him as Lord and savior!

AbuTwins:

The Qur'an is not the book of life that records the names of those saved! I think i have answered you well enough!

Is it because Quran is not a book a life you Muslims are living a wretched, pathetic and desolate life that you believe in suicide mission as your lives is miserable to you?

AbuTwins:

Yahweh couldn't save him and John the Baptist! They had to die! Yahweh needs blood to save people not like ritualists!

Are you against the Quran verse that says Jesus is alive? If Yahweh couldn't saved him would he be alive till everlasting? Leave John out of this and tell me why Muhammad was abandoned with his fate after he was poisoned

AbuTwins:


The Prophet died after a few years of being poisoned by a Jew!
Your Biblical Jesus was betrayed by Jews and crucified by the Romans!
Your John the Baptist was beheaded as birthday Gift!
Samson killed himself with a house full of people!

Even if he died 50 years after he was poisoned, is it not a shame that the beloved messenger of Allah was poisoned to death? Leave John and Samson out of this, let's examine how Muhammad's life was terminated by the Jewish lady he forcefully married after he killed her parent

AbuTwins:


You can continue to weep bitterly now!

I'm weeping for you that you're living a miserable life with the Quran that is not a book of life but a book of destruction and the reason why Muhammad wasn't sure of his aftermath while Allah in his infinite mercy said you guys are going straight to hell fire so therefore, I weep bitterly for you

AbuTwins:


The Bible no get mouth to talk!

Hear O Israel the Lord our God is one!

Church fathers divided the One into three for una!

Is God not one already? But I'm asking you quote where Bible mention Three Gods in one

RightChanneI:


Is God not one already? But I'm asking you quote where Bible mention Three Gods in one

The Bible didn't say it. You guys interpreted it as such! That's why the trinity is created

AbuTwins:


The Bible didn't say it. You guys interpreted it as such! That's why the trinity is created

Thank you for saying the truth about the Bible and did we Christians tell you that we are serving or worshiping Three Gods?

RightChanneI:


Thank you for saying the truth about the Bible and did we Christians tell you that we are serving or worshiping Three Gods?

No! You serve one God with three persons!

That's three in one!

AbuTwins:


No! You serve one God with three persons!

That's three in one!

Is your word, spirit and soul not part of you? Can you do without your word, spirit and soul while still alive?

I wish you answer this and please no diversion or long story

honesttalk21:


God was not talking to the earth in Genesis 1:26. The verse states, “Then God said, ‘Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.’” In this context, God is divinely and the verse reflects the use of the majestic plural with God.

Your thoughts are extremely far reaching.
Sumerian a language of Mesopotamia belongs to an isolated language family, while Arabic is part of the Semitic language family. This difference indicates distinct linguistic origins for both languages.

And if you choose Akkadian then you must know that despite some similarities due to their common Semitic roots, Akkadian and Arabic have significant differences in terms of vocabulary, grammar, and phonetics. While there may be some lexical overlap or shared features due to their historical connections, the overall structures of these languages are distinct.

Your extraneous drive to relate the pre-islamic idols are interesting but totally baseless. Allah begets not and neither is he begotten

If you bothered to continue reading you will get to where it says " And God formed man from the dust of the earth and breath into his nostrils and man became a living soul....
Man is is made up of dust from the earth and breath of God.....
So where did the dust come from ?

From my extensive research..Allah would be the equivalent of the moon God sin or Nanna, it could not have been Marduk.....

sonmvayina:


If you bothered to continue reading you will get to where it says " And God formed man from the dust of the earth and breath into his nostrils and man became a living soul....
Man is is made up of dust from the earth and breath of God.....
So where did the dust come from ?

From my extensive research..Allah would be the equivalent of the moon God sin or Nanna, it could not have been Marduk.....

Do you disregard that the Hebrew word for God is ELOHIM and that the word is plural. Do you not know Deuteronomy 6:4 that emphasises the oneness of God. If you did you will understand that the plural God is one God or a God who is a “plural-one.

Equating Allah with these ancient gods overlooks the theological differences and historical contexts that define each deity.


Who created the dust? In any case this discussion was not with the earth.

Your conclusions are wrong

honesttalk21:


Do you disregard that the Hebrew word for God is ELOHIM and that the word is plural. Do you not know Deuteronomy 6:4 that emphasises the oneness of God. If you did you will understand that the plural God is one God or a God who is a “plural-one.

Equating Allah with these ancient gods overlooks the theological differences and historical contexts that define each deity.


Who created the dust? In any case this discussion was not with the earth.

Your conclusions are wrong

Allah was already being worshipped long before anybody called Muhammad existed.His so called Father's name was Abdullah which means savent of Allah..

Elohim means plural..

So, there are several gods, but only one creator of the universe...He gave the other Gods their station, to Allah he gave the moon. As his domain.

Well asper Gen.1:26...I don't know what else to tell you, maybe when you grow up you will understand..
Till then... shalom

sonmvayina:


Allah was already being worshipped long before anybody called Muhammad existed.His so called Father's name was Abdullah which means savent of Allah..

Elohim means plural..

So, there are several gods, but only one creator of the universe...He gave the other Gods their station, to Allah he gave the moon. As his domain.

Well asper Gen.1:26...I don't know what else to tell you, maybe when you grow up you will understand..
Till then... shalom

Indeed the ancient people now Allah; the almighty God.

The false knowledge you and your likes acquire lead to arrogance and the corruption of the truth?

Glad that everyone is responsible for his or herself.

honesttalk21:


This is the text from the web page.

The majestic plural, also called the royal plural, is the use of a plural word (such as the pronoun we or us) to refer to a single person. As a type of nosism, the majestic plural emphasizes something or honors someone in a stylistic way. Basically, when a member of royalty, referring to himself, says, “We” instead of “I,” he is using the majestic plural. For example, Queen Victoria, upon hearing a tasteless joke, is said to have replied, “We are not amused.”

The ancient Hebrews used the majestic plural, and some examples are found in the Old Testament. But the construction is not unique to Hebrew. The Latin language also had what the Romans called pluralis maiestatis (“the plural of majesty”), and, as has been noted, English sometimes uses it as well. Other modern languages using the royal plural include Punjabi, Hindustani, Telugu, and Egyptian Arabic (in which the President of Egypt is referred to as “Your Excellencies”).

The effect of the majestic plural is to indicate greatness, power, and prestige. It is normally reserved for use by nobles, kings, popes, and other persons of high rank when speaking in an official capacity or by those of lower rank when speaking of or to their betters.

In the Bible, we find four verses in which God refers to Himself using plural pronouns. The most well-known passage is Genesis 1:26: “Then God said, ‘Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness.’” See also Genesis 3:22; Genesis 11:7; and Isaiah 6:8. The One God is speaking of Himself in plural form: us and our. This is a perfect example of the majestic plural. God’s divine greatness and transcendence are emphasized through the simple use of pronouns.

The majestic plural is also found in one of God’s most common names in the Old Testament, Elohim. The word itself is plural (the singular is Eloah), and it is sometimes translated as “gods” (when referring to a plurality of false gods). When it refers to the One True God, Elohim (plural) is correctly translated as “God” (singular).

Deuteronomy 4:35 says, “The LORD is God”—literally, “Yahweh is Elohim.” And the famous Shema says, “The LORD our God, the LORD is one.” Again, we have the singular Lord coupled with the plural Elohim, and this time in a verse that is crystal clear that there is only one God. His name’s plural form indicates His sovereign supremacy, His matchless might, and His exceeding eminence.

We carefully note that the majestic plural in the Old Testament was not meant to teach the doctrine of the Trinity. It is simply a linguistic tool that God employed to accentuate His greatness. However, the use of plural constructions to refer to God leaves open the possibility of God’s triune nature. Later, when the doctrine of the Trinity is revealed in the New Testament, the use of the majestic plural fits right in.

The problem is that the God of Moses never once addressed Himself as WE!

The implication is very serious if you care for the truth. It means that the God of Abraham, Isaac, Moses is NOT the same as Allah!

Lost and or hidden in translation.

The Ten Commandments
20 Then Elohim spoke all these words:

2 “I am Yahweh your Elohim, who brought you out of slavery in Egypt.

3 “Never have any other god. 4 Never make your own carved idols or statues that represent any creature in the sky, on the earth, or in the water. 5 Never worship them or serve them, because I, Yahweh your Elohim, am El Kanna. I punish children for their parents’ sins to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me. 6 But I show mercy to thousands of generations of those who love me and obey my commandments.

It means God